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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2018, 06:48:09 PM »


And, speaking of stand-ins.  No,... not Lyons as a stand-in for Quebec City right now
but another aspect of my theory.  I did mention that Nostradamus does seem to be predicting,
The Lady clothed with the sun and how She'll have an encounter with Satan in the sky?  Correct?

C4  Q22

When Venus will be covered by the sun.
Under the spendor a hidden form.
Mercury will have exposed them to the fire.
Through war like noises it will be insulated.

Is it that hard to see Nostradamus was using the Goddess, Venus, as a stand-in for Mother Mary
clothed with the sun?

Is it that hard to see the hidden one in the splendor is Satan?

Mercury will have exposed them to the fire.

Mercury, by the way, is the ruling planet for the constellation, Virgo,
and ... Mercury or Hermes to the Greeks was also the God of boundries
and what does he do to them ... the ones who may have strayed beyond the boundries?
Aren't - they - exposed to the fire?  The mastiffs awaiting - them.

Through war like noises it will be insulated.

Well, whatever - it - is - it seems to be better off than, them.


C5  Q 72

For the pleasure if the voluptuos edict
One shall mix poison with the faith.

Yes, this two lines are vague but hopefully I will get back to them
and give my interpretation but for now ...

Venus shall be on a course so virtuous
As to becloud the whole quality of the sun.

Is it that hard to see that Nostradamus was using the Goddess, Venus as a stand-in
for the Lady clothed with the sun?

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2018, 11:46:53 AM »

Now, for the possibility that Lyons could have been a stand-in for Quebec City.
Given their similarities.

C8 Q91

Entered among the field of the Rhone (dwellers)
Where those of the cross are almost united.
The two lands meet in Pisces
And a great number punished by the flood.

Entered among the field of the Rhone (dwellers)

As Quebec City is located near the St. Lawrence River so is,
Lyons, located by the Rhone.

Where those of the cross are almost united.

Both cities have a high concentration of Catholics.
Those of the cross.

The two lands meeting in Pisces.

Pisces is not omly a constellation, it is also the Age we're in now.
Soon to end when the Age of Aquarius starts.
The two lands could mean France and Canada will have some kind of connection
with the Age of Pisces ending and Aquarius beginning.  Or if the word - land -as it appears
in French as - brasselez - which means  - lighted forms - then that could fit as well.  
The lighted forms being Mother Mary and Satan.  Either way or both ways, it could fit.

And a great number punished by the flood.

Again, with the water imagery.  Again, the Age of Aquarius beginning with the said event.  
Again with the punishment.  Do you think that when Satan has his downfall that a sizeable number
of people will have a downfall as well?

C 3  Q 46

The sky (of Plancus city) forebodes to us.
Through clear signs and fixed stars.
That the time of sudden change is approaching.
Neither for its good, nor for its evil.

Lucius Munitius Plancus was a General for Julius Caesar as he was conquering, Gaul,
modern day France.  He later became prominent and served in the government of Rome
and Emperor Augustus commissioned him to establish a new city in France.  That city was to become, Lyons.

Now read the above quatrain with the information, I just gave you.

Something is going to take place in the sky over a city.  A new city.
Something which will be a warning for all of - US.
A sudden change comes with this event like the changing of Ages?
And?  Quebec City will be the ground zero for this event.
As in - it did not take place for Quebec City's good, nor for its evil.

Gees ... could Nostradamus be predicting a New Age as instigated by God.

C2  Q46

After great trouble for humanity a greater one is perpared.
The Great Mover renews the ages.
Rain, blood, milk, famine, steel and plague.
In the heavens fire seen, a long running spark.

Yeah, going down.


Yippie kie yay, mother ...

I'll let you fill in the rest.
 


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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2018, 08:11:02 AM »

The King of Terror (of 1999) is...

Igor Strelkov. Igor's biography fits the Quatrain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Strelkov_(officer)

Mabus is Mohan Madhukar Bhagwat. Mohan's biography and India's communal riots fits the Quatrain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohan_Bhagwat

The 3rd AntiChrist is from Iran (Persia) as was described in a letter given to the French King during his (Nostradamus') time or era.

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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2018, 12:05:10 PM »

C 2 Q 46

After great trouble for hunanity a greater one is prepared.
The Gereat Mover renews the ages.
Rain, blood, milk, famine, steel and plague.
In the heavens fire seen, a long running spark.

Yeah, going down.

As you can plainly see, Nostradamus clearly states that God - The Great Mover - will renew the Ages
which reminds me of a Jewish fable concerning the Garden of Eden.  The beginning.

In that fable, after Eve, (blame the woman) and Adam both ate the forbidden fruit
one of the consequences for disobeying God would be that they would die.  In other words,
they had immortality and now they didn't.  So, Eve, became jealous of all the animals in Eden
because they still maintained their immortality so she tricked them all to eat the forbidden fruit so they
would have the same fate as the humans.  All but one.  

It seems a bird wouldn't fall for the trap and this bird became the, Jewish, Phoenix.  Now, in order to reward
that bird, God prounounced (since the world was now corruptable)  it would indeed age like all the creatures
in the world, but do so very, very, very slowly and at the end of five hundred years or a thousand (I read both numbers)
when it was just about to die, it had to fly to a walled city.  Once there, when it was just about to die ... it was renewed.
And so on and so on ...

Now, since Eden was the beginning as instigated by God, then one would imagine, if God was going to instigate
a new beginning for mankind, then somehow, some way, there should be a lady involved, somehow, some way, there
should be an evil entity involved as there was in Eden and somehow, some way, there has to be a walled city involved.

Mother Mary?  Satan?  In the skies above, Quebec City which, by the way ... was a walled city.

What do you think?    




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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2018, 07:44:47 PM »

Here again

C 2 Q 55

In a land with a climate opposite of Babylon quatrain, we have

There will be a great shedding of blood.
Heaven will seem unjust on both land, sea and the air.

C9 Q96

In one of the Rose quatrains we have

For new deeds public shedding of blood

Now, look at this one  C4  Q49

Before the people blood will be shed.
Only from high Heaven will it come far.
But for a long time of one nothing will be heard.
The - spirit - of the lone one will come to bear witness against it.

Again, a public shedding of blood?
From High Heaven?

Down the road ... the spirit of the lone one, the proud one,
the spirit who escaped will be bearing witness against it.

Ever hear that exspression, Defeated but not destroyed?

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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2018, 12:18:36 AM »

C 2 Q 46

After great trouble for humanity a greater one is prepared.
The Great Mover renews the ages.
Rain, blood, milk, famine, steel and plague.
In the heavens fire seen, a long running spark.



"Great trouble" is World War II.

"A Greater one is prepared" is World War III.
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2018, 08:00:30 AM »

And, speaking of Jewish traditions and my theory

The Jews have a tradition that Satan must have a downfall a) before the Messiah comes and /or b)
the building of the Third Temple.  In other words, you can't have the Temple without the Messiah or the
Messiah without the Temple but- beforehand - either way, Satan must have that downfall.  And, speaking of the Messiah ...

The Jews have a tradition that He will not appear until mankind is very good or very evil.

So, if I'm right, Satan, will be having that downfall and a sizeable number of people will be
having a downfall with him.  A downfall which will include a Judgment day, not  for all of mankind
but a judgment day to be - witnessed - by all of mankind.  See this event world, which way are you going to go now?
You only have two choices, mankind.

And, speaking of the devil (sorry, no pun intended) you do know he has been described, in a figurative manner,
as the, Great Red Dragon, do you not?  Check this out.

C8 Q80

The blood of innocents, widow and virgin
So many evils committed by the means of the Great Red One.
Holy images placed over burning candles
Terrified by fear, none will be seen to move.

I stated right at the beginning that the Age of Aquarius will begin with the deaths of innocents and the wicked.
So, what these people measured out will be measured in.  If they aimed death at an innocent person or persons,
then, they themselves, will suffer the deaths of innocent people in there own house, if you will.

And how will the dead who are burying the dead reacting, because now they know where they're going
after they die?  Typical.  They'll be terrified by fear and praying their hearts out to God and His Saints
And?  Well read it yourselves.  And, speaking of the deaths of innocents again.

C8 Q87

A death conspired will come into full effect.
The charges given and the voyage of death.
Elected, created, received, defeated by its followers.
In remorse the blood of innocents will be in front of them.

By the way, I chose that expression about the dead burying the dead, on purpose.

It's from a passage in the New Testament regarding Jesus.  Of course, no Christian scholar who interpreted
that passage ever thought it was a prophecy, which I think it was.  Check it out.


Forgot to mention this, you do know how these people will be distinguashable amongst the rest of mankind
don't you?  Marked.
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2018, 03:23:19 PM »

And, getting back to Canada again

C4 Q96

The elder sister of the British Isles
Will be born fifteen years before her brother
Because of her promise procuring verification
She will succeed to the Kingdom of the Balance.

Do you remember when I stated that in 2008 Canada celebrated the anniversary
of the founding of Quebec City as being the oldest city in Canada?  Well, before that happened
the people of Saint John's, Newfoundland contested that title, claiming their city was indeed the oldest.
Their argument?  Well, it seems a Sir Humphrey Gilbert in 1583 was given title from Queen Elisabeth
to establish a settlement there.  He died that same year but several years later, there were indeed, fishing camps
established which were used on a seasonal basis.  The Minister of Culture had to choose and he rightly
determined that outhouses used on a yearly basis carried more weight than ones used on a seasonal basis
so, Quebec City, was given the honor.  So, why am I bringing this .... up?

Well, look at the quatrain again.  In the first two lines Nostradamus is not talking about the French establishing a foothold
in North America but rather the British.  And when did the British establish their first permanent settlement?  That was in
Jamestown, Virginia, in 1607 so indeed, the elder sister born fifteen years before (around 1592) could have  been, Saint John's.  
The key word being - born.   Now, let's look at the verse.

The elder sister of the British Isles
Will be born fifteen years before her brother.

Notice anything? Canada is represented by the female figure.  Why?

Because of her promise procuring verification.

Because of - her - the female figure - the Rose - and - Her promise - procuring - what?  
Causing - bringing about - what?  Verification.  
Ever see that word before, like in the first quatrain I presented?  
When the world will want or demand - verification - from the Normans.
Fron a northern country with a province which speaks French?

She will succeed to the Kingdom of the Balance.

By the way, you do know the Balance could indeed be, the symbol for constellation, Libra
or the scales of justice.  Or, both - for that matter and somehow - She - will be involved.
Like maybe, in the sky?  Tell us Canada did the event which took place in your country really
come from God?
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2018, 09:50:17 AM »

And, back to the timing and location again ...

C2  Q 41

The great star will burn foe seven days.
The cloud will cause two suns to appear.
The big mastiff will howl all night.
When the great pontiff has changed country.

Do you remember when I stated that the historical hint here was there would be
a Pope who was not born in Italy?  In other words, that tradition for over 400 years had
to be broken before the event I've been predicting could take place.  Well, take a gander.

C 2 Q 87

Afterwards there shall come from the outermost countries
A German Prince on the golden throne
The servitude and waters met
The lady serves, her time no longer adored.

Yes,  Pope Benedict XVI after Pope John Paul Ii, did come from Germany
which, by the way, was NOT an outermost country to Nostradamus since he lived
in France.  Both Germany and France, being in Europe, were very close to each other.

So, let's look at the verse again with nothing being changed except the sequence
of the first two lines.

A German Prince on the golden throne.
(And) Afterwards from the outermost countries.
The servitude and waters met.
The lady serves, her time no longer adored.

AFTER - Pope Benedict XVI ended his reign as Pope.  
THEN - there will be an event from one of the outermost countries.
AND THAT EVENT BEING?

You tell me,  It sounds like a lady has to be involved who somehow connects with waters
in an outermost country and she serves.  And what's that about her time no longer being adored?
Doesn't that mean she must have a religious nature to her?  So, if Nostradamus was referring to the Papacy
not respecting her time . Well, that's where the Third Secret of Fatima comes in and how the Vatican's
interpretation of it was wrong.  At least, in my opinion.  Check this out from then Cardinal, Joseph Ratzinger,
who did become the, Pope Benedict XVI, in question.



       A careful reading of the text of the so called Third Secret of Fatima  . will probably prove
disappointing or surprising after all the speculation it has stirred.  No great mystery is revealed,
nor the future unveiled.

Sayeth you.






 

  
 
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2018, 09:12:16 PM »

And getting back to the early history of Canada again

Here's two quatrains which I already analyzed.

C9 Q97

The forces of the sea will be divided in three parts.
The second will run out of supplies
In despair looking for the Elysian Fields.
The first one to enter the breach will obtain the victory.

C1 Q77

A promontory stands between two seas.
A man will die later from the bit of a horse.
Neptune unfurls a black sail for his man.
The fleet near Gibraltar and Rocheval.  

Okay, I analyzed them, now see if this one doesn't line up with the first
in regards to the Marquis de la Roche and his ill fated attempt to establish a settlement in Canada.  
You know.  The second will run out of supplies in despair looking for the Elysian Fields.

C2 Q97

Among several transported to the isles
One to be born with two teeth in his mouth.
They will die of famine, the trees stripped.
For them a new King issues a new edict.

Among several transported ...
Since many of the crew were convicts, tramps and beggars with very little choice,
I guess - transported - is a good word to use.

to the isles.
They were looking westward for the Elysian Fields, correct?  
And, another name for that was indeed, The Isles of the Blessed.
And, when then ended up on Sable - Island - they ran out of supplies and the consequences being

They will die of famine

And where were they again?  Sable Island.  An island, if you can believe it, without trees.

the trees stripped.

For them a new King issues a new edict.

No, they didn't all die.  From what I gather, 11 out of the 70 some odd men were rescued
and brought back to France and if I'm not mistaken were indeed brought before a new king.
So?

So I'm predicting that a New Age will begin in the very country where this took place
with Satan having a downfall and a sizeable number of people will have a downfall with him.
And they (them) will be facing God in front of the world and Nostradamus just happens to mention
the word - new - twice - and ?  Well, how blessed were those people anyway?

By the way, the word - edict - new or otherwise, is defined as,  
A pronouncement with the force of the law or an authority behind it.

I can see that.  Sorry.




  
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And, speaking of a Vulcan, other than, Spock, let's look at the Roman god who bears the same name.
For those of you who don't know, he was the god of fire and given his expertise and/or occupation
was creating things out of metal, he spent a great deal of his time underground.  Again working with fire
and smelting and fashioning metal to his heart's desire.  (If he could build me a new car, it would be greatly appreciated.)
Anyway, take a look at these two quatrains which I will show back to back.

C4 Q30

The Sun hidden, eclipsed by Mercury
Will be placed only second in the sky.
Of Vulcan, Hermes will be made into food.
The sun will seen pure, glowing red and golden.

C9 Q74

In the city of - Fertsod - (quotation marks), homicide.
Deed and Deed many oxen plowing, no sacrifice.
Return again to the honors of Artemis
And Vulcan bodies, dead ones to bury.

First quatrain - The sun will be hidden, eclipsed by Mercury will be placed only second
in the sky.  

Mercury the planet cannot eclipse the sun as far as we're concerned
but if he is talking of Virgo and its ruling planet being, Mercury, then Mother Mary, the Virgin Mary,
if She becomes the Lady in the sun then it would appear, from our perspective,, that She
would eclipse the sun and make it second to Her brightness.

Of Vulcan, Hermes will be made into food.

Well, if Hermes is indeed the messenger of the gods, then maybe, if the message
is about Vulcan, the god of fire, or of, Vulcan - Satan - then maybe we should be incorporating
that message into every sense of our being.  Food for thought, mankind?

The sun will be seen pure, glowing red and golden.

After the event that's exactly how the Sun should look
Again, after the Lady clothed with the sun boots Satan in the back of the head
and he falls like how Jesus said it  like lightning.

Second quatrain  In the city of Fertsod, homicide.

You know I checked everything I could to get a meaning out of Fertsod.
Like looking at the Latin and coming up with, iron - ground, and nothing worked.
What's ironic about it is, the French translation is, Fertod and there really is a city of Fertod
in Hungary.  And?  Well, you're not going to believe this but in 1950 two cities in Hungary merged
to become one city - Fertod.  Check it out.  What's ironic about that is, I've always maintained that
Lyons and Quebec City should be coupled together.  Anyway ...

Deed and Deed many oxen plowing, no sacrifice.

First of all this reminded me of that quatrain which Nostradamus put forth
about - the marvelous deed done - and how I used it to bolster my theory.
But what's he mean about many oxen ploughing, no sacrifice.
Well, what I can garner from that is, when sacrifice were made it was either to thank God
for doing something good or hoping something bad wouldn't happen.  So, if it was no sacrifice
then, what is it?  Maybe a judgment day will take place which will not be for all of mankind
but rather to be witnessed by all of mankind?  

Return again to the honors of Artemis.

Well, if Nostradamus used Venus as a stand in for Mother Mary,
couldn't he be using Artemis this time?  The virgin, moon goddess?
The goddess of the hunt?

And to Vulcan, bodies dead ones to bury.

You know, if I didn't know better, it seems like people will be going to Vulcan.
Could he have meant, Satan - as a stand in?  You know, underground, fire?   
And did you see the ending?  Are the bodies, the dead ones to be buried
or is he saying, the  bodies - the dead -- will be burying the dead?  
Gees, I think Jesus said something about that.  



BTW - just to clarify something in the verse where it says, Deed and Deed.
This is what I make of it.

The first deed is the marvelous deed when Mother Mary boots Satan in the back of the head
above the skies of Quebec City.  The second deed She will do, is incorporate the innocents with Her
when She returns to Heaven.  This will leave one group, the group that will be marked.
And, what will happen to them?  Well, that's when the world will be demanding verification from the Normans
i.e. the Canadian Government.  They will be investigating all this, right in front of the world.
The ones marked will be called to testify which makes this quatrain ever more meaningful.

C1 Q3

When the litters are overturned by the whirlwind
And faces will be covered by cloaks.
The new state will be troubled by its people.
The reds and whites will judge in contrary ways

or another version of the last line.

The reds and whites will rule wrongly.

And?

Well, first of all, Canada has a flag with a single leaf.  A maple leaf to be exact
and litters, could indeed be, dead leaves.  So when the litters are overturned by the whirlwind.
it could not only mean that it's taking place in Canada but some citizens are involved or over taken
by the said, whirlwind.  Hence the statement - And faces will be covered by cloaks.  Do you think Nostradamus
could see news cameras in the future?  So, where are the soon to be dead ones going, hiding their faces?  

Well, the Canadian government will be doing an investigation as in - the world will want verification from the Normans.  
Something like the Warren Report when it came to Kennedy.  (Hopefully, this one will be honest)
This would explains the third line - The new state will be troubled by its people.

And the last line in both variations  Then the reds and whites will judge in contrary ways or wrongly
.
That's the government for you - they will be thinking that something has to be ruled upon when their main job is to document
and only document.  By the way - Canada has only two colors on its flag - red and white.  Just thought I'd mention it.

So, basically what will be happening is the dead who had buried the dead will be testifying before the Canadian government.
A Blue Ribbon Commission, of some sort. before the world.  Their testimonies will be documented and afterwards . in a single night.

Read the last quatrain again, if I confused you.  I think it's pretty straight forward.  






 

  


  
  
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