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Did I identify the New City which Nostradamus speaks about?
The event which will take place in the skies above it?  Did I interpret
the Third Secret of Fatima correctly?  Please have a look at what I posted
on YT (not very professionally done, I might add,  but it was my first time doing
anything like that, plus the heat that day was stifling) please see below. 
If link does not register I have placed the title of the vid. 

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxkr3c9j6LU

Nostradamus, Fatima and the New Age.
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2016, 07:59:00 AM »



BTW - just to get a conversation going - should there be any -
please check out the following quatrain.  It should be familiar to you since
everyone and their grandmother tried to make it fit to New York and 9/11.

Century 6 Quatrain 97

At forty five degrees the sky will burn
Fire to approach the great New City
In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up
When they will want to have verification from the Normans

(or another version of the last line)

When the world will want (or demand) to have verification from the Normans.

Answer as to the identification of the New City, with support from this quatrain
and others.

Quebec City.

I'll explain in depth again ... should you be interested.
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BTW - just to get a conversation going - should there be any -
please check out the following quatrain.  It should be familiar to you since
everyone and their grandmother tried to make it fit to New York and 9/11.

Century 6 Quatrain 97

At forty five degrees the sky will burn
Fire to approach the great New City
In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up
When they will want to have verification from the Normans

(or another version of the last line)

When the world will want (or demand) to have verification from the Normans.

Answer as to the identification of the New City, with support from this quatrain
and others.

Quebec City.

I'll explain in depth again ... should you be interested.


Okay for those who are interested, let's look at the last line first.

When the world will demand verification from the Normans.
The Normans could be people from a northern province in France
called Normandy or to a northern people or country.  Of course, if you put them together
you would have a northern country with a province which speaks French.  That leaves Canada as the only possible choice.  
The province of Quebec which speaks French.


Second line.  Fire to approach the great new city which must be at or near 45 degrees latitude as stated in the first line.

In 2008 Canada celebrated the four hundredth anniversary of Quebec City as being the oldest city in Canada.

Therefore, if it was the oldest city then, at one time, it must have been the new city.

Now please look at the vid and see how Lyons in France at 45 degrees latitude fits perfectly with Quebec City
at 46 degrees latitude.  Both new cities.  Both stararted out as a fort.  The former on a hill, the latter on a summit.
Lyons, the city of walls, Quebec City being a walled city.  Now factor in Lyons connection to Mother Mary
and why I believe the event of the Lady clothed with the sun will be booting Satan's head in above the skies of Quebec City.
Yes, .. I was wrong about the timeframe in the vid but I still believe it is going to happen in the near future and will circle around
a Fatima day.

There's a  lot more but what I posted will be enough for now.

Have a good day


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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2018, 11:49:06 AM »

Here's another quatrain which, if nothing else, shows that Nostradamus was indeed
predicting the event of the Lady clothed with the sun whereby She will boot Satan in the back
of the head in the sky.


Just going by memory I'll find the exact century and number in the near future and put it here.

The day that she will be hailed as Queen.
The day after the benediction and prayer.
The reckoning is right and valid.
Once humble never was one so proud.

Lucifer once humble never so proud?
(Esp given the nature of the world today?)
The Queen after the benediction and prayer?
The Queen of Heaven?
The reckoning is right and valid.
The day they meet in the sky?
And where?   Above, Quebec City.  The New City as already mentioned.

Century 10 Quatrain 19.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2018, 11:02:21 AM »

Here's more support.
In the first quatrain re the new city and the projected event, you will note Nostradamus gave us
some geographical hints.  45 degrees verification from the Normans . a new city.  Now look at the next quatrain.

Century 1 Quatrain 87.

Earth shaking fire from the center of the earth
Will cause the towers near the New City to shake.
Two great rocks for a long time will make war.
And then Arethusa will color a new river red.

Historical clue this time as opposed to georaphical ones.

Two great rocks for a long time will make war.

Again referring to Canada and how England and France were at war for a long time.
In fact, it was England which conquered the French at the decisive battle for Canada at ... Quebec City.

Earth shaking fire from the center of the earth
Will cause the towers near the New City to shake.

Satan rising?  Shaking the earth?   Coming from the center of the earth?
The towers near or in Quebec City will shake


And then ... Or after Mother Mary causes Satan to have a downfall with a sizeable number of people
having a downfall with him.  And then ...

Arethusa - a water nymph will color a new river red.
The Age of Aquarius will begin with the said event and there will be the deaths of the innocents
and the wicked.  Blood will be spilled.  Mankind will be given their final warning.

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2018, 02:44:14 PM »

And speaking of a Heavenly event where blood will be spilled for the Age of Aquarius
to begin in Canada - Quebec City


Quatrain Century 1 Quatrain 55


In the land with a climate opposite of Babylon
There will be a shedding of blood.
Heaven will seem unjust both on land, sea and in the air.
Sects, famines, kingdoms, plague, comfusion.

Last line is a filler.  Nothing significant.

Now let's go through lines 1 - 3.


In a land with a climate opposite to Babylon.

Well, that in and of itself, given the Canadian winters, would be opposite of, Babylon, in the Mid East, but let's look
at something else as well.  Nostradamus wrote - climat - for climate ... In a sixteenth century French dictionary
it could mean - region, part, portion (of thr sky)  So, the real climate comparisons, notwithstanding.
we would have a land with a region or part or portion (of the sky) which is opposite of Babylon.

A land with a region and in that region - or above it - in the sky, at around 45 degrees?  Something will happen?
Like something could happen in the skies above Quebec City ... the, new city.

And what could be the consequence of this event if it does concern Mother Mary
fulfilling the prophecy of the Lady clothed with the sun?
Read on.

There will be a shedding of blood.
Heaven will seem unjust both on land, sea and in the air.

What will - seem - unjust and where did this event originate, Heaven?
And, will it not send shock waves  throughout the world on land, sea and in the air?


Arethusa will color a new river red.

 




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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2018, 07:43:18 PM »

Here are two quatrains in a row, the first already analyzed

The day she will be hailed as Queen.
The day after the benediction and prayer.
The reckoning is right and valid.
Once humble never was one so proud.

The Lady clothed with the sun.  Now consider the next quatrain.

C1 Q92

Fire, color of gold from the sky seen on earth.
Heir struck from on high, marvelous deed done.
Great human murder, the nephew of the great one taken.
Deaths spectacular, the proud one escaped.


An event from the sky seen on earth?  Heir struck from on high?
The Prince of this world gets struck down?  Marvelous deed done?  
Who would argue with that?  Now look what happens ...

Great - human - murder.  Deaths spectacular.  
A sizeable number of people who had a downfall with Satan will die?  
And what about him?  According to Scripture he will be wounded, not killed.
As in - the proud one escaped.


The same proud one in the previous quatrain who was once humblr before God.


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Now, here's three quatrains in a row which, in my opinion, expresses the same thing.
The first two have been analyzed


The day that she will be hailed as Queen.
The day after the benediction and prayer.
The reckoning is right and valid.
Once humble, never was one so proud.


Fire, color of gold from the sky seen on earth.
Heir struck from on high, marvelous deed done.
Great human murder, the nephew of the great one taken.
Deaths spectacular, the proud one escaped.

Now the third C1 Q91

At sunrise one will see a great fire
Noise and light extending towards Aquilon
Within the circle death and one will hear cries.
Through steel, fire, famine, death awaiting them.

Remember the new city quatrain where there was fire from the center of the earth?
Shaking the earth?  Satan rising?

Well, look at the above verse.

Fire, noise and light extending towards Aquilon?  Aquilon means ... north.
Canada?  Quebec City in Canada?
Within the circle?  People within the circle?  Those with Satan?  Those who will have a downfall with Satan?
One will hear cries?  Death awaiting them?




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Here again,  two quatrains, side by side,  which seems to be making the same prediction
but in more detail.  The first has been presented before and assessed.

C1 Q55

In a land with a climate opposite of Babylon
There will be a great shedding of blood.
Heaven will seem unjust both on land, sea and in the air.
Sects, famine, kingdoms, plagues, confusion.

C9 Q96

The rose in the middle of the world scene.
For new deeds public sheddding of blood.
To speak the truth they will remain with closed mouths.
Then at the time of need the awaited one will come late.

Gees, in the first quatrain, Heaven will - seem - unjust.  The shedding of blood.
The event making news all over the world.  

In the second, the Rose, a femine figure, Mother Mary, in the middle of the world scene.
The shedding of blood for new deeds as in, the dawning of a New Age.
All major religionns will be dumbfounded.  And Jesus will not be coming now as many people expect,
... but later.  

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And, speaking of Canada and in particular, Quebec City
Check out the following.

C9 Q97

The forces of the sea will be divided in three parts.
The second will run out of supplies
In despair looking for the Elysian Fields.
The first ones to enter the breach will obtain the victory.

The forces of the sea will be divided into three parts.
Canada has three oceans on its borders.  The Atlantic, Pacific and the Arctic.

The second one will run out of supplies
in despair looking for the Elysian Fields.

France had two failed attempts to colonize Canada before it was achieved
by Samuel Champlain on the third attempt.
The second was attempted by de la Roche de Mesgouez, Troilus in 1598 or 99.  Check it out
He left some of his crew on Sable Island with supplies while he went on looking for a better place for a settlement
and they ran out.  While he was looking for that better spot a hurricane hit and it drove his ship halfway back to France.
So, since he was halfway back he went all the way back to France.
(Believe me, I can't make this stuff up.)  It even gets worse.  When the Marquis de la Roche got back to France,
he did keep sending supplies but that eventually stopped in 1602.  So, the long and the short of it   they did run out of supplies.

looking for the Elysian field.

Elysium or the Isles of the blessed was the nice section of Hades and it was located in the western portion.
And of course, a lot of Europeans  during the 1500's were indeed heading west to achieve their own sense
of a lucrative paradise, if you will.

Elysium, by the way, if translated from the Greek to English means struck by lightning.
And, the last line.

The first ones to enter the breach will achieve the victory.

It was Champlain who founded Quebec City and if you read his account there was a portion
of the banks of the Saint Lawrence river which was ideal to climb upwards to establish a settlement.  
Breach could mean an opening or gap.

Last but not least, consider the following as it concerns this quatrain.
We have struck by lightning ... we have struck by lightning in the Heavenly area of Hades ... we have a victory ...  
we have an entity from the lower portion of Hades ... we have the founding of Quebec City ... we have Jesus telling us
in the New Testament He saw Satan falling like lightning and ... we have my theory that the Lady clothed with the sun will
be striking. Satan in the back of the head in the skies above Quebec City and ... he will have a downfall and when he does ...
it will appear like lightning striking the earth.
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Now, again, two quatrains, side by side, the first has just been analyzed.

C9 Q97

The forces of the sea will be divided in three parts
The second will run out of supplies
In despair looking for the Elysian Field
The first ones to enter the breach will obtain the victory.


Now look more on Quebec City.

C1 Q77

A promontory stands between two seas.
A man will die later from the bit of a horse.
Neptune unfurls a black sail for his man.
The fleet near Gibraltar and Rocheval.

A promontory

The most decisive battle which ever took place in Canada happened on Sept 13, 1759.
This happened when the British defeated the French to gain dominion for the country
of Canada and it concerned, Quebec City.  This battle took place on the Heights of Abraham
but years later the Canadian government changed it to, The Plains of Abraham, because it sounded more Biblical.
Anyway ...


between two seas.


On the last page, you will note that I stated that Canada had three oceans on its boundaries.
However   since it was quite an accomplishment in 1867 to have an entire country stretching
from the Atlantic to the Pacific and the Arctic was a no man's land the official motto was and still is
(taken from the Bible)  - from sea to sea.  So -

A promontory between two seas - could refer to an event on that promontory and in a country
given the motto, could be in Canada.  Hence the battle for Quebec City.

A man will die later by the bit of a horse.

General Montcalm led the French forces and he was shot while on horseback during the battle.
He managed to get back to Quebec City and he died the next morning from his injures.  I researched
the peculiar word - bit - as written in French and one translation could indeed mean - wound or wounded.
So that passage fits in regards to General Montcalm.  He was wounded on horse back and he did die later.

Neptune unfurls a black sail for his man.

General Wolfe (who became General after the battle) did die on the field and the ship which did bring his body
to England to be buried did indeed unfurl a black sail for England's man.  Just in case your interested the HMS Neptune
was indeed, the flagship for the entire fleet but the ship that did bring his body to England was not. That ship was the HMS Royal William.  
Again, with a black sail.  So look at the line again.

Neptune unfurls a black sail for his man.  Neptune - God of the seas  -  England.  The English navy?  
The most powerful navy in the world at the time?  Marking the future death of their commander or man
and/or The Age of  Aquarius, given the water imagery, will come in with deaths?  Hence the black sail. 
As I've maintaining all along.  Last line.

The fleet near Gibraltar and Rocheval.


At first I couldn't understand how a rocky island off the coast of Europe could connect with Quebec City
so, for the Heck of it, I punched in Gibraltar and Quebec City in the computer and Well, I guess one of Quebec City's tagline, if you will,
in the old days was, The Gibraltar of North America.  So how could, Rocheval, fit?    Well, do you remember the two failed
attempts to colonize Canada  .. Well, the one I mentioned had de la Roche, in his name and the other was named, Roberval
I suppose if you put both names together one could get, Rocheval.  Correct?  Canada?  Quebec City?    




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I've already analyzed two quatrains regarding the new city

These were


At forty five degrees the sky will burn
Fire to approach the great new city.
A great scattered flame will leap up
When the world will demand verification from the Normans.

Earth shaking fire from the center of the earth
Will cause the towers near the New City to shake
Two great rocks for a long time will make war.
And then Arethusa will color a new river red.

You know what my conjectures were ...


Now look at the aftermath

C10 Q99

Garden of the world near the new city.
In the path of hollow mountains.
It will be seized and plunged into the vat
Drinking by force the waters poisoned with sulfer.

Couldn't the garden of the world like the Garden of Eden be a new beginning
for mankind as it originated over the skies of Quebec City?  The New City?

Couldn't ... in the path of hollow mountains be ... hollowed mountains ... like a mined out area
in the Canadian Shield with it's many mines some no longer operational.  And many now defunct mines have lagoons
still filled with poisoous chemicals.  After all ... where would - It - an unclean spirit end up before before he samk from whence he came
... but the most unclean spot in the area?  Dead waters as opposed to living waters, I guess and oh, yes ...What a smell of sulfur
does come to mind.
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And, speaking of Satan going back from whence he came and his human buddies
who will soon join him. Take a gander at these two quatrains which will be analyzed one at a time.

C2 Q91

The great star will burn for seven days.
The cloud will cause two suns to appear.
The big mastiff will howl all night.
When the great pontiff will change country.

Let's start with the last line since it may give us a historical time frame.

When the great pontiff will change country.

For over four hundred years no one who was born outside of Italy
was elected Pope.  This trend was broken when John Paul the II became the Pontiff.
He was born in Poland and ever since it has been the same way.  Pope Benedict was from Germany
and the current Pope, Francis came from Argentina.  So if this event I'm predicting does take place during the reign
of, Francis, then the line would hold true.  Now let's go in order from there.

The great star will burn for seven days.

This could be a Heavenly event or sign just before the main event, if you will.

The cloud will cause two suns to appear.

Well, if it's a Heavenly cloud around the sun and Mother Mary is to be the Lady clothed
with the sun, then it would appear like there were two suns in the sky.  Next line.

The big mastiff will howl all night.

Of course this big mastiff could indeed be a Hellhound, correct?  In fact, it could be Satan's
favorite Hellhound.   So why is Pookie so upset that he's howling all night?  
Because Daddy got his head kicked in That's why.

Next quatrain.

C10 Q99

The end of wolf, lion ox and ass.
Timid deer they will be with mastiffs.
No longer will the sweet manna fall upon them.
More vigilance and watch for the mastiffs.


The end of wolf, lion, ox and ass.
Timid deer they will be with mastiffs.

Notice anything?  The wolf and lion are known for their aggressive natures
and the ox and ass are led.  Either way, whether they freely decided to be aggressive or freely decided to follow,
it will be the end of all of them.  So where will they end up.  Look at the next line.

No longer will the sweet manna fall upon them.

Well, if manna fell from Heaven and it ended up on earth and it can't fall towards them,
then guess where they are?  That's right.  With Pookie and company.  Last line.

More vigilance and watch for the mastiffs.


Gees, if I didn't know any better I would guess, Nostradamus was giving mankind a warning.
What do you think?  Did you do what they did or are you now ... doing what they did?   If so,
what makes you think your fate won't be the same?  I told you the Age of Aquarius will come with a warning.  
  

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And, back to the Rose in the middle of the world scene.  You know, Mother Mary, the Lady clothed with the sun,
Her encounter with Satan in the sky and if I'm right, in the sky above Quebec City.  Take a look but before you do,
a near miss for a Prophet who lived from 1503 to 1566, to me, would be a hit.  I'll explain.


C5 Q31

Through Attic land fountain of wisdom
At present the rose of the world.
The bridge ruined and (at) it's great pre-eminence
Will be subjected, a wreck amidst the waves.

Looking at it in order ...

Through Attic land fountain of wisdom.
  
Near miss or hit?  When the anniversary of Quebec City took place for being the oldest city
in Canada, a gift was given from an individual in France which of all things was a fountain.
His name was de Tourny and the fountain is called, Fountaine de Tourny.  Check it out.

Near miss or hit?  In French the word Attic is written, Attique.  This translate to Attica which
refers to the region of Greece where Athens is located.  Athens, by the way, was named for Athena,
the Greek - Goddess - of wisdom.  So?  Well, there does happen to be a lake in the province of Quebec which is called,
Lac Attic which I assume in French would sound exactly like Lac Attique.  Again ... near miss or hit for a prophet who lived
in the 1500's.  Near miss or hit, as it connects with a Goddess to connect to, Mother Mary?

At present the rose of the world.

Already explained.

The bridge ruined and (at) its great pre-eminece
Will be subjected, a wreck amidst the waves.

So, how does a disaster about a fallen bridge connect with Quebec City?
Well, one did and didn't.  Check out the 1907 disaster of the Quebec Bridge and how it was
to connect with Quebec City but didn't ... because there was a flaw in the blueprints or design, right from the beginning.
Could this remind you of an entity of some sort, who was flawed right from the beginning?  Who may end up in a vat
and be forced to drink water poisoned by sulfer?  Unclean as he is?  And, oh yes - subjected.  The disaster of the Quebec Bridge
is a subject taught in every University Engineering class (worth it's salt) about how designs - if flawed - from the beginning
may result in the loss of life.

Next quatrain.

C2 Q97

Roman Pontiff beware of approaching
The city where two rivers flow through
Near there your blood will come to spurt
You and yours when the rose will flourish.

This quatrain is pretty straight forward.  The only reason I brought it up
was the historical hint which Nostradamus gives us.  Here he is saying
after ... the rose will flourish ... then ...the event is to take place.

So, what event regarding a Rose in the middle of the world scene or at present in the world
could take place first?

I guess there will be more than one warning given, this one, for the Pope himself  
I'd be checking your future travel plans if I were you...


By the way, just found out something else.  Athena was a virgin.  Kind of fitting, don't you think?
She was also good in a battle too.
 
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2018, 03:36:08 PM »

Now, let's get back to the mastiffs for a second.  Figuratively speaking, of course.

Please note I will be presenting the first two quatrains, which I've already analyzed and then another one.

C2 Q41

The great star will burn for seven days.
The cloud will cause two suns to appear.
The big mastiff will howl all night.
When the great pontiff will change country.

I stated that the historical hint was in the last line how a person
who wasn't born in Italy would be Pope and that the Pookie line was
indeed referring to Hell, itself.

C10 Q99

The end of wolf, lion, ox and ass.
Timid deer they will be with the mastiffs.
No longer will the sweet manna from Heaven fall upon them.
More vigilance and watch for the mastiffs..

This quatrain added details.  That a group of people - them - would be
Hell bound to be greeted by the Hell hounds and there will be a warning given to the rest of us,
still living.  Now, the next quatrain.

C10 Q59

Within Lyons twenty five of one mind
Five citizens, Germans, Bressans, Latins
Under a noble one they will lead a long train
and discovered by the barks of the mastiffs.

So, what's this?  Here Nostradamus is not giving a geographical hint but he's actually - pointing to a specific place,  
which isn't, Quebec City or the New City.  It is Lyons in France.  This is one of the first indications that Nostradamus
was actually using Lyons as a stand in for Quebec City.  So let's look at it.

Within Lyons twenty five  of one mind.
Five citizens, Germans, Bressans, Latins.

I don't know what these lines are referring to.  I firmly believe that no one in Quebec City will be caught
up in this event but rather it will be the ground zero for the start of a New Age.  It could mean that twenty five statues of
Saints of one mind within Lyons and/or Quebec City may show the effects of an Act of God . but, again, I don't know.

Now look at the last two lines and the mastiffs.

Under a noble one they will lead a long train
And discovered by the barks of the mastiffs.  

A long train of people is indeed, a long train of people, so a sizable number
of people will be taking the elevator down.  As for a - noble - one or ones who will be
leading them down doesn't surprise me one bit.  You mean they weren't good people, after all?
Cop?

Anyway, I 'll show you in more detail down the road how Lyons was indeed a stand in for Quebec City.  
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