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General Discussion / Re: Nostradamus on Barack Obama?
« on: August 12, 2011, 05:16:52 PM »
So a politician with probably the worst scenario  on his landscape and an electorate that just wants to go back to sleep.
Is somehow being bad mouthed by Nostradamus?

I pity any politician trying to lead people like that.
Maybe a Bush type character will demonstrate how low one can go.

Don't forget the "Certainty of ignorance" a big factor in most forums!  :-[

The Weird and the Wonderful / Re: MABUS IS.....
« on: August 04, 2011, 02:41:30 AM »
Oh dear the Mabus folly started by E Cheatham and further promulgated by Hogue and other bogus experts, is certainly alive, only Problem Nostradamus did not do USA, they are not in his works, but for the sake of book sales certain commentators insist he did.
Carry on it gives you some intellectual pursuit, and we can watch how it evolves!
Junior High school grade should take 3 years, based on current posts!

Not exactly but a removal of democracy is forecast so  Presidents and Anglo Saxons are going to be rare, in the future. :D

General Discussion / Re: Was Osama Bin Laden Mabus
« on: June 16, 2011, 04:11:23 AM »
See post above! ::)

General Discussion / Re: Poll: Who is Mabus?
« on: June 16, 2011, 04:09:27 AM »
I have a reasonable HubPage about MABUS here:

In short: I believe Q2-62 is referring to Senator Ray Mabus; using his iminent death as Time Pointer.
Currently Senator of the Navy is also the leading canidate for Secretary of Defence in July.

Starting short before his death there will be a major act of vengeance - revenge.  Consider the Sec of the Navy was the 4th most senior person involved with Osama bin Laden killing, current actions (NATO Lead by France) against Libya, etc.  The US Navy is main support group in the Med for all NATO attacks on Libya. Imagine a missile in the air; it will definitely look like a Comet.

However the quatrain is not about Mabus; it is about the act of vengeance.  Those in France  and related regions; including the Med fleets - are in great danger for an great act of revenge; soon before Mabus will die.  His death might be related to the Act of Vengeance; he might actually be killed in such act.  Being 75 years old, that does not leave much time either. 

However, the bottom line of this insident is that nobody can predict the exact time in the future; it will only be possible to link back after the full incident took place. 

BUT HERE IS THE VALUE: We will then have a more concrete 'formulae' or key to unlock other Quatrains.

Why Mabus is a central figure is in my own opinion a mystery, nowhere does this character emerge except to say the character dies when a Comet comes to the Planet wiping out many creatures.
As to Ray Mabus being the character well Nostradamus was clearly Not interested in the USA and being as there is precious little about that area in the works of Nostradamus they clearly are not important in the scheme of things to the European land mass.
However the USA is not totally missing in the story, just that what happens there is probably not palatable to the average reader.
Military Defeat and invasion.

Quatrains / Re: Ideas for reading the Quatrains
« on: June 11, 2011, 10:02:04 PM »
Not all of Notradamus writings were in code.  Often his descriptions were so factual and accurate people can still not believe it.  I found there is a certain rhythm to most of his quatrains, sort of a coding system.  If you apply this when reading the quatrains a whole new perspective opens up. 

LINE #1: The pointer to time; this states that at a certain time (e.a. July 1999) or when a certain occurrence takes place.
LINE #2: This is the confirmation of the time.  So when you have a potential TIME, how can you know you have the right time?  This is your time confirmation.
LINE #3: This is the actual line of critical importance - the reason for the whole quatrain.
LINE #4: This last line is additional information applicable to either the time period or the main event.

Next - this is the most confusing.  Each quatrain is on its own, pertaining to a specific occurrence.  As of writing the quatrains, I personally believe most if not all of the quatrains were of prophetic nature.

Location: I believe by far the most applicable locations for these quatrains to happen would be in countries with which Nostradamus was quite familiar i.e. France and Italy which he visited; Spain, England, etc.  Sorry for the Americans; Nostradamus does not have much about you, at best a very few possible quatrains like the Mabus issue.  In these few cases of possible USA references, such will most probably be French related anyway. 

Lastly, contrary to what most people believe; Nostradamus is NOT a END of WORLD prophet.  This is the most deceiving modern understanding.  Most of the Nostradamus prophesies are of some importance, but for a small amount of people.  Most are in fact small 'news worthy' typical Page two, three or back page news articles.

In essence you are correct, however Nostradamus could be both literal and metaphoric for example it is assumed the 7th month is July but that could if named help the rhyme, (Juillet), but he does not name the month, but numbers it, (also one other Quatrain has a numbered Month)) opening it up to scrutiny, could be a contraction of sept-ember/embre, though when you look at the calendar of those days one soon realises the people followed an astrological calendar because only at Spring could the soil be tilled and the year begin, so 7th month becomes, not September but October, but again words are important when you reduce your message to average 30 words, bit like Twitter, but we also know they are in verse form so in effect poetics are used to explain and confuse the reader they are really difficult riddles some of them, and they are made that way, but the structure always is a constant.
Yes he was a poet historian that looked forward and differs from the others (futurists) in giving a run down of how events unfold and who is responsible, imagine getting a unfiltered view of events; pogroms, battles, disasters, of every kind, and this bitter humour shines through and it is then apparent that Nostradamus' greatest enemy was then and is now, ignorance.

Only one person has taken power from the air in 1999, the former President of Pakistan and only one other person has done this LBJ after JFK.
Debt Payer who breaks the Western banks!

Current Events / Re: Happy rapture day!
« on: June 04, 2011, 04:08:06 AM »
You have to laugh at the western cargo cultists, such ideas as being zapped away, what makes them so good?
Never happened to anyone else, and typical of Hollywood upbringing, they get the climax first ::)

General Discussion / Re: MABUS 3 people: Have come and gone.
« on: May 27, 2011, 09:04:15 AM »
If one bases their assumptions on Biblical tradition stick with that, Nostradamus talks of specific places and gives dates and  mostly outcomes to battles through riddles.
The 3 though are the folk who take the west out and run the planet until Mr AC arrives! see C8Q17.
The mother of all 911's

General Discussion / Re: The antichrist is:
« on: May 27, 2011, 08:57:33 AM »
I think based on the evidence, they are all false prophets, mere constructs for the benefit of deferring to a higher power.
Supremacy is the problem with religions.
Ever hear of the Anti-Buddha?  :-X

It is not a case of hating anyone, history moves it it's own way and takes no sides, increasing population means more constraints.
Those that are in control will move over for a new regime/s to do as they will.

Quatrains / Re: Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab
« on: May 12, 2011, 06:06:43 AM »
Methinks you miss the context of the story, and  just who he is talking about. 8)

General Discussion / Re: Was Osama Bin Laden Mabus
« on: May 09, 2011, 06:32:41 AM »
I always wonder how or why Mabus is such a central character that needs very poor word association to prove his name matches just about every character that enters the news?

General Discussion / Re: Nostradamus on Barack Obama?
« on: May 09, 2011, 06:28:13 AM »
So before any invasion can begin you would need to remove all that western ordnance from the regions of Asia and the middle east!

General Discussion / Re: Nostradamus on Barack Obama?
« on: April 16, 2011, 03:43:03 PM »
Was not Mr Obama's family, with his mother? his father was African but Obama was not born in a large unmeasured city like cities in Asia, the large cities in Africa are for the most part named.


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